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Praying for the Refuah of a Rov or Parent: Do I say name / title?


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#1 FS613

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

When doing the above,

should one say the name, "HaRav Ploni ben Plonis" ?

Or should one just say the name, "Ploni ben Plonis" ?

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#2 Rabbi Shapiro

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 07:25 PM

Just the name. No titles. Not even "Harav."

#3 FS613

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 07:44 AM

1) If one is davening for a parent's Rifuah,

should the person say, "Ploni ben Plonis" ?

Or should the person say, "Avee Moree ben Plonis" ?

2) If the Choleh is a Kohayn or a Levi, is that included in the name?

For example, "Ploni HaKohayn/HaLevi ben Plonis" ?

Or "Avee Moree HaKohayn/HaLevi ben Plonis" ?

3) If a woman Choleh is a Bas Kohayn or a Bas Levi,

one does NOT say "Plonis bas Kohayn/Levi bas Plonis" - correct?

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#4 Rabbi Shapiro

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:22 AM

1) Neither. When praying for a parent he one should say Avi Mori Ploni ben Plonis. A Talmid praying for his Rebbi says Mori Ploni ben Plonis.
2) No.
3) Correct.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:39 AM

Is a female who is sick called a cholah or a cholanis? I've heard it both ways.

#6 Rabbi Shapiro

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:50 AM

Is a female who is sick called a cholah or a cholanis? I've heard it both ways.


They are both proper words, but they mean 2 different things. Choleh means "a sick person." Cholani means "ailing," or "sickly."

In the MiSheberach, Cholah is the proper word to use. It is feminine for Choleh. Cholanis is the feminine for Cholani. Since we use the word Choleh for a man, we should use the world Cholah for a woman.

#7 FS613

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:10 AM

Rabbi, if one is praying for one's own child:

 

Is the proper expression "Bnee Ploni / Beetee Plonis"

 

(My son, Ploni / My daughter, Plonis) -

 

or else, the usual expressions, "Ploni ben (Mother's Jewish name)" or "Plonis bas (Mother's Jewish name)" ?

 

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#8 Rabbi Shapiro

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:24 PM

No difference. They both work.