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#1 taon

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:37 PM

On Frumteens, the Rav had said, in relation to eilu v'eilu

This is based on the idea that Istakel B'oraisa Ubara ALma - that the world, is just a reflection of what it says in the Torah. And if in the Torah there are parallel explanations, there must be parallel realities in the world as well.



Could the Rav please elaborate on this?

#2 Rabbi Shapiro

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:21 PM

Well Im not sure of the context of what you quoted, but it can mean one of two things:

The Seforim say that there are parallel realities in existence. Just as in the Torah there are 4 parallel ways to understand each idea - Pshat, Remez, Drush, and Sod, so too there are 4 parallel worlds, each one with its own reality.

For example, the Gemora (Taanis 5b) says Yaakov Avinu never died. Then it asks how could that be - they buried him! The Gemora answers מקרא אני דורש שנאמר וגו. There are those who explain this to mean that in the simple world of Pshat Yaakov died and was buried but in the world of Drush he remained alive.

Or it could mean what I explained here.

One of the two.

#3 taon

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:46 PM

The first one. Does it mean there is an actual universe where different things happened, or is it another layer of reality, like in two?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:30 PM

A little of both. In the sense that Drush for example is tied to Pshat, that word is tied to ours. But it is not a layer of our universe, like the second example I gave is.